Hey, I'm Destin. Welcome back to No Dem Questions. What's up, Matt?

Not too much. Things are good. I'm excited for this conversation. Well, I'm very excited

for this conversation.

Okay. So while back when we hired our correspondence, we interviewed Lee and you were very adamant

about having Lee research hockey, I could care less about this, but you, it's a thing.

You're making it just kind of explain to me why this is important.

Well, I love hockey. I played it for a long, long time. I haven't played it for several

years now because I don't know. I just don't know anybody who plays hockey anymore. The

sport is different than all the other sports I've played. I like all the sports, but all

of them overlap in this one big clump over here. And then there's this weird outlier that

is hockey. Hockey means something different. It feels different to play it. It's almost

like the ground rules of relationships are different while you are playing hockey. And

so when we connected with Lee Rina, who we've known for a long time, today's been on the

program before, but when we brought Leon after he had a successful interview for the

correspondent program and he became the champion of honesty, profanity and hockey. I thought,

well, I don't know what an episode on honesty would look like. I think we've already done

his episode on profanity. So maybe we should do one on hockey where somebody who lives and

breeds this thing 10 times more than I do and knows it 10 times better than I do can come

on and try to explain to the third chair and to you, my friend, who have not played hockey

at all.

Haven't why this thing is different? Why this thing matters? What hockey means? Even if

you don't like hockey and it feels like this completely foreign thing, I feel like there

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