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You got to get people to care.'re able to share with us.

You've got to get people to care.

You got to get people curious.

And there's also a lot of people who are fearful of a lot of the things that I study.

That's another challenge is how do you take somebody who absolutely hate spiders and change

their mind? How can we better convey the science behind sustainability to the general

public so that people will first of all be more interested in it in the first place and feel

more motivated to actually take action? How do insects tie into this picture of sustainability?

And even though they're often viewed as a

nuisance, why is their presence so vital to our sustainable future? That's just the tip of the

iceberg of what you'll hear today. To check out our limited 2019 Green Dreamer planners created

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