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Nishkevar here from Pod Save the UK.

And Christiana Figueres from outrage and optimism.

Rising inequality, conflict, climate disaster is very hard to find reasons to be hopeful about the future.

That's why we're teaming up this September during the 80th General Assembly of the United Nations.

Along with political currency, Pod Save the World, the Week junior and... up this September during the 80th General Assembly of the United Nations.

Along with political currency, Pod Save the World, the Week, Jr., and more.

We'll discuss the stories that give us hope and answer the question, how does hope turn into action?

Look out for the Be Hope Takeover this September.

Hello, everyone.

This is JVL and Sarah Longwell.

We're about to give you a preview of our secret podcast for you, our next level family. Sarah, say hi to the people.

It's just JVL and I, no Tim. And JBL and I, we agree on the fundamental tenets of democracy and then just about everything else we disagree on.

And this is the show where we hammer some of those conversations out.

It is, I think, where we wrestle with the biggest questions.

And that is true of today as well.

Yeah, we're going to talk about this interview Cass Sunstein did with the New Yorkers, Isaac Chotner, which is everybody in the discourse was fixated on because of stuff about Henry Kissinger, which I think is actually sort of fun but silly, not important. There are some big important things that they talked about that we want to unpack. And then I pose this question at the end of TNL, which was, how do we fix all this?

And we promised you we would talk about it. And so we're going to do that. And I'm going to

explain why it can't be fixed. And Sarah's going to explain how to fix it. Yeah. And, you know, spoiler, that's how the show will go.

Yeah.

So, uh, guys, come ride with us.

Here's the show.

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