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101. Mass Transit Hysteria

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🗓️ 14 November 2012

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

Adding more train and bus lines looks like an environmental slam dunk. Until you start to do the math.

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From APM, American Public Media, and WNYC.

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This is Freakonomics Radio on Marketplace.

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Here's the host of Marketplace, Kyra's Doll.

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Time now for a little bit of Freakonomics Radio that moment in the broadcast every couple

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of weeks where we talk to Steven Nubner, the co-author of the books and the blog of the

0:23.5

same name, the hidden side of everything is what it's all about.

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Dabner, how are you, man?

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Doing well, Ky.

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Thanks.

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Here in New York, we are recovering still from Sandy.

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Yes.

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The transit system has mostly recovered or subways and buses getting back to moving about seven million

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passengers a day, if you can believe it.

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Which is, I mean, honestly, it's amazing.

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And the fact that they pumped out all that water is kind of crazy.

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It is.

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And you know, we've been doing it for years and years.

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All that mass transit means that New Yorkers have one of the smallest per capita carbon

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footprints in the entire United States because we all know that mass transit is very, very

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good for the environment, correct?

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We do know that.

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And the only thing we don't know is where you're going, Dabner.

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