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Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

101 | David Baltimore on the Mysteries of Viruses

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

Sean Carroll | Wondery

Society & Culture, Physics, Philosophy, Science, Ideas, Society

4.84.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 June 2020

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

I recently saw an estimate that if you took all the novel coronaviruses in the world (the actual viruses, not patients), you could fit them into a bucket no more than a couple of liters in volume. A huge impact has been wrought by a very small amount of stuff. The world of viruses is vast and complicated, and we’re still learning some of its basic features. Today’s guest David Baltimore won the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for the discovery that genetic information in viruses could flow from RNA to DNA, establishing an exception to the Central Dogma of Biology. He is the author of the Baltimore Classification scheme for viruses, and has done important research in the role of viruses in diseases from AIDS to cancer. We talk about what viruses are, how they work, and the status of the novel coronavirus we are currently battling. David also has some strong opinions about public health and how we should be preparing for future outbreaks.

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David Baltimore received his Ph.D. in molecular biology from the Rockefeller Institute. He is currently the Robert Andrews Millikan Professor of Biology at Caltech. At age 37 he was awarded the Nobel Prize, which he shared with Howard Temin and Renato Dulbecco. He has served as the President of both Rockefeller University and Caltech, as well as President of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the Founding Director of the Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research. Among his other awards are the National Medal of Science and the Warren Alpert Foundation Prize.


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0:00.0

Hello everyone, welcome to the Minescape podcast.

0:02.8

I'm your host, Sean Carroll.

0:04.2

So how about those viruses?

0:06.4

So hot right now, right?

0:07.9

Everyone's talking about viruses.

0:10.1

You know why we're in the midst of quarantine,

0:12.6

global pandemic with the novel coronavirus,

0:15.5

leading to the COVID-19 disease.

0:18.5

But here at Minescape we're less about the concerns

0:20.6

of the moment and more about the big picture issues

0:23.3

that are going to last for a very long time.

0:25.7

So let's talk not about this particular pandemic,

0:29.2

but about the idea of viruses more generally.

0:32.9

And there's probably no more expert person to talk to

0:35.1

than today's guest, David Baltimore,

0:37.5

who won the Nobel Prize in Physiology and Medicine

0:40.8

for virus-related activity back in the 1970s.

0:43.9

He and his collaborators were the ones who showed

0:46.0

something called reverse transcription.

0:48.8

You might know that in genetics, in cellular biology,

0:52.3

there's something called the central dogma

0:54.6

that says that DNA stores information.

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