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The Next Level

1002: ICE Website Goes Full Fascist! Trump’s Personal Army? Epstein Excuse Blows Up!

The Next Level

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.92.4K Ratings

🗓️ 30 July 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller and JVL discuss the recent ICE job postings. These listings describe positions for “Deportation Officer”, "Criminal Investigator" and "General Attorney". They suggest this is part of a broader strategy to staff a loyalty-vetted enforcement agency with little oversight or transparency. 

Then back to Epstein, who “stole” a 16-year-old girl from a Mar-a-Lago Spa, to work for him. They examine the deeply unsettling context of this story and how Trump appears to recount it without moral concern. They connect it to a broader pattern of normalization of sexual misconduct and the erosion of outrage in political culture. 

Finally, the story of Luke Farritor, a young man who used AI to help decipher text from a scroll. Then went on to work for DOGE and who is to blame for his work.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I want to live in a world where there is deep shame by all the people who worked in the Trump administration.

0:06.3

Like, I want to live in a world where 25 years from now, when people, they've got a gap in their resume because they don't want to put they were part of the Trump administration on their resume.

0:19.6

Hello, everyone. This is JVL here with my best friends, Sarah Longwell and Tim Miller of the bulwark.

0:27.0

Guys, before we get started, a little bit of personal news.

0:30.6

I have been waging like Bill Murray and Caddyshack, a war against a bear, a very friendly bear in our neighborhood.

0:43.4

Who has been coming at our trash, which is a thing that happens in New York City.

0:48.9

They probably get out from Central Park and they meander.

0:51.5

Anyway, so I have employed a number of anti-bear measures on my trash cans, which have all

1:00.3

failed.

1:00.9

And then yesterday, I went out with the big guns and I installed.

1:03.8

I had to drill into my trash can to a lot.

1:07.6

There are carabiners.

1:09.2

And this morning, the bear showed up. And I don't know, maybe we can even drop some video in here. But I defeated the bear. He went after the trash can and then he gave up. And as he walked back down my driveway, he looked actually dejected. And what not pictured in the video is me crotch shopping and telling him, Suck it. That's right, dude! Is the bear alive? Opposable thumbs! Is the bear alive? Yeah. He survived, though. He survived. It didn't kill him. But I discouraged him. I actually think JVL, what he did achieve was with the trash can, right? He didn't tangle with the bear. He let the trash can do that for him.

1:45.7

No, but basically, I was Leonardo DiCaprio and the Revenant. And this is why people need to

1:52.5

subscribe to the bulwark here on YouTube, because this is our counter to the manosphere. You know,

1:57.7

we need a macho, masculine, pro-democracy podcast where somebody like JVL knows how to

2:05.3

just do guy stuff like dominating bears and videotaping it.

2:09.6

That's right.

2:10.4

Okay.

2:10.6

Well, I don't get anything for my gay joke?

2:12.6

Nothing.

2:13.0

Nothing from 10.

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