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Hello, everyone. Welcome to The Big Picture Retirement Show.

This is the podcast for anyone who is planning for or living in retirement.

I'm Devin Carroll and joined today by John Ross. Hey John. Howdy? So John, you were telling me before we started recording. So we

were sitting here. We had another couple of topics that we were about to talk about. And then you

started telling me about this Supreme Court case. And I said, no, let's record that. Let's get this down in an episode. I want to

hear more about this. Take it from the top. Okay, so one question I get, I deal with a lot of people

in retirement, and many of those folks have grandchildren. In many cases, they like their grandchildren better than they like their own children. I think that's, yeah. You know, that's just kind of the joy of being a grandparent. Right. And sometimes that's just because, you know, their grandkids are great. And as a grandparent, you get to do whatever you want to do. Right. It's a consequence-free environment, right? Load them up on candy and send them home. Right.

But sometimes that's because the kids themselves are just basically train wrecks.

That can get pretty ugly.

And so a lot of times, especially when the kids are in pretty bad shape, you'll get questions of maybe the kids have barred visitation.

They just don't let the grandparents see the kids anymore, things like that.

So a lot of times people will ask me, what, you know, do I have, what kind of rights do I have?

Yeah, because I'm thinking of a case right now where, you know, there was a tragedy, a son died.

The wife of that son just never liked his parents.

Well, now she has no one to check her up. Right. And she hasn't let grandparents see that kid

since he died. Yeah. And, you know, when I went to law school, I had to take a family law class,

and there was a whole section in there about grandparent rights

and what rights they had and what they didn't and how to petition the court for grandparent

rights. By the time I finished law school, you could take that entire section that we studied

and tear it out of the books and burn it. Wow. All of which, because of a Supreme Court case, commonly just

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