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The Lincoln Project

100: The Dialect of Extremism

The Lincoln Project

The Lincoln Project

News, Government, Politics, News Commentary

4.69.1K Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2022

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Host Reed Galen is joined by fellow Lincoln Project Co-Founder Rick Wilson and Lincoln Project Senior Advisor Trygve Olson to discuss why so much political power has found its way into the hands of non-office holders, the latest from the political organization “No Labels” and why they so widely miss the mark, and what can be expected in the political landscape over the next 10 months.

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. I'm your host, Reed Gaelin. Today, I'm

0:12.8

joined by co-founder of the Lincoln Project, host of LPTV's The Breakdown, an author of

0:17.3

Everything Trump Touches dies, Rick Wilson. Rick, thanks for coming back.

0:21.8

Always a pleasure, my brother. Also returning to the show today is Trig Vials.

0:26.0

Senior advisor to the Lincoln Project, president of Viking Strategies LLC, and a real-life freedom fighter

0:31.5

joining us from Washington DC. Trig V, thanks for coming back. Thanks, Reed. It's good to be here.

0:37.2

So guys, for today's show, I want to talk about how we at the Lincoln Project see the political

0:41.4

landscape and why others are making mistakes when they think it's normal, as well as how we see the

0:46.9

next 10 months before Election Day. But first, guys, I want to talk about political power in America

0:51.3

today. Who has it, how they use it, and how it got this way. And Trig V, this is something you and I

0:56.8

were talking about yesterday in the form of Tucker Carlson. And in your expertise with authoritarian

1:03.3

movements, I like to call it sort of the political jenga game, which is Tucker belongs to know political

1:09.2

party as far as we know. I don't even think he's a Republican. He has not ever held political

1:14.5

office. Does not hold political office, doesn't appear to want to hold political office, doesn't

1:19.0

have a campaign committee or a pack yet. He's able to go on the air and espouse anti vaccine stuff

1:26.8

totally dismantle a United States Senator in the form of Ted Cruz. He's going to hungry next week

1:32.5

for some sort of fascistic vacation. I don't know. So talk to me about as democracies are in peril,

1:39.6

what it means to see these people who have no other power other than proximity to the leader or the

1:46.1

movement. I don't think you can cycle analyze Tucker Carlson, right? Like he's been everywhere

1:51.4

within the media landscape. He was on MSNBC. Now he's gone full populist nationalist. You know,

1:57.6

he has a huge microphone and he's peddling extremism. He talks in the language of extremism.

2:04.9

He plays on distress with cognitively simplistic conspirator, choral answers to things. If you watch

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