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🗓️ 5 January 2021
⏱️ 86 minutes
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Matt Mullenweg is the co-founder of WordPress, the open platform that runs most of the sites you visit and the CEO of Automattic. In this episode Matt and Shane discuss distributed work, the 5 levels of autonomous organizations, decision making, running an organization with more than 1300 people, integrating acquisitions and so much more.
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0:00.0 | I believe all proprietary software to be an evolutionary dead end. |
0:04.6 | Maybe it'll take 50 or 100 years. |
0:07.2 | But what happens, just like what happened fairly quickly, |
0:10.0 | with like encyclopedia Britannica and other encyclopedias and Wikipedia, |
0:13.4 | is that the thing which is open to all and gets everyone working together, |
0:17.8 | if it truly gets that sort of like humanity working together on the same shared resource, |
0:23.2 | you get the opposite of the tragedy of the comments versus like the field being overrun, |
0:27.6 | each person operating in their own self-interest sort of kills the environment |
0:31.5 | or kills the shared thing. |
0:32.9 | You get each person operating in their own self-interest, |
0:35.1 | makes to share a thing better and better. |
0:37.0 | And in digital world, we can do that because we have economics, |
0:39.5 | economics, of abundance, versus economics, of scarcity. |
0:42.4 | That's why open source will eventually win every mark of its end. |
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