Good-aid, Dominic Barfield here, and this is the RVC technical podcast. Thank you for listening,

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Professor Holger Volk. Thank you, Professor, for joining us on what marks out the 100th podcast of this

reincarnation of the RVC clinical podcast. So thank you very much. Thank you for this

very kind and far too exterated introduction. So, so Hulge, can I, so you gave a podcast when

Shaden was in the chair and it's over over five years ago now about seizures.

So maybe I could ask rather than reiterate what's what you did then.

There's more what is what has changed in the last five years of our understanding of

seizures?

Yeah.

Thank you for the question.

I mean there has been obviously a lot has. Or saying it the other way around, we have learned a lot more about epilepsy management in general

and about epilepsy being a brain disease.

If I now reflect on the last five years, I think from our research group's point, the main

change has been that we see epilepsy now not only as a simple seizure disorder, so epilepsy beyond seizures.

Epilepsy is far more than that.

And it actually came about when we launched our epilepsy app.

We had a human, I mean a person who had epilepsy or still has epilepsy, and she told us about

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