10 years on from the Referendum, have we even had Brexit yet?
Planet Normal
Louisa Wells
4.7 • 2.9K Ratings
🗓️ 3 June 2026
⏱️ 72 minutes
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This week on Planet Normal, your co-pilots of sanity, Liam Halligan and Allison Pearson, confront the tragic murder of 18-year-old Henry Nowak and the national outrage surrounding the police's handling of the case. Marking the 10th anniversary of the Brexit referendum with former Vote Leave chief executive, Lord Matthew Elliott, the duo reflects on the original promise of leaving the EU and how the podcast itself was born out of a shared taxi ride following a celebration of that historic vote.
Allison delivers a searing indictment of the "woke indoctrination" paralysing British policing, highlighting how diversity, equity, and inclusion targets have trained common sense and humanity out of officers, leading to the inhumane treatment of a dying victim while his killer was treated with total decency.
On Brexit, Liam uses his column to bust the persistent "Project Fear" myths, pointing out that the UK has actually outgrown France and Germany since 2016. However, he laments that successive governments have failed to capitalise on regulatory freedoms and instead allowed immigration to soar to historic highs.
Highlights
- Planet Normal: 10 years on from the Referendum, have we even had Brexit yet?
- The police failed Henry Novak, and DEI continues to fail us all
- 10 Years of Brexit: A deep dive into the economic realities of the post-referendum UK, detailing missed deregulation opportunities alongside strong export growth
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | The Telegraph. |
| 0:09.0 | Identity politics, nonsense, this Marxist rubbish that's been imposed on good, honest coppers. |
| 0:17.8 | Four. |
| 0:19.0 | What happened to the days when you just put a quid in the machine? |
| 0:22.3 | Three. |
| 0:23.8 | All their humanity has been trained out of them. |
| 0:27.8 | Two. |
| 0:29.4 | This so-called traffic-like coalition of Labour, Lib Dem, Greens would be disastrous for the UK. |
| 0:35.9 | One. |
| 0:39.3 | We have left off. |
| 0:42.1 | Welcome once again to Planet Normal, the Telegraph podcast with Alison Pearson. |
| 0:46.4 | Hello. |
| 0:47.2 | And me, Liam Halligan. |
| 0:49.5 | The name Henry Novak will be with us for some time, Alison. |
| 0:53.5 | Like Carl Bridgewater and Susie Lamplieu. |
| 0:56.4 | This was the murder of a young person in the prime of their life that really touched a national nerve. |
| 1:02.5 | Novak, as we now know, was killed by Vikram Digwa, a 23-year-old Sikh, who earlier this week was jailed for life. |
| 1:10.2 | But the vicious multiple stabbing in Southampton |
| 1:12.6 | of 18-year-old Henry, a young man full of promise, the first in his family to attend |
| 1:16.8 | university, is already notorious because of police action. Just a short excerpt from police |
| 1:23.3 | body cam footage has been released. But what we already know has caused national outrage, |
| 1:28.8 | as you've conveyed so powerfully in your column, Alison, in yesterday's telegraph, link in the show notes. |
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