If nobody turned that one steer the four times you're riding that night, you didn't get a turn in.

You just didn't get to row.

When the heck loans you $30,000 to go rodeo?

What are you talking about?

You get down, we're like, this sucks.

We're still going to do it.

I can't stand it.

So I just go up to him and I am like, is there something wrong with your brain?

So we're officially going.

Undefendable.

Yeah, that really is our management.

The name of the podcast is a flatbed podcast.

The reason is not going to happen so long.

I met Ross Wagner at a camp in Montana in 2012.

I think the world of him.

Every time we run into each other, it just feels like old times.

It feels like an old friend that I haven't known for all that long. But cool barrel racing producer has a history with the development of gator ropes,

and he's got ties to Montana Silversmith.

It's like everything this guy has touched has done well, and his family's had success in the industry.

But more specifically, I think the thing that stood out to me was his genuine interest in barrel racers

and seeing them do well and seeing them succeed.

It's no surprise that his events have done so well when somebody like that's in charge.

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