Hello and welcome to PFF Fancy football podcast. I'm your host Ian Hartitz and let me be the first, you know, maybe not the first but happy week eight either way.

We got by a get in whatever you want to call in the past review mere on force and won't have the Raiders or Ravens this week, but at least we have fancy football could be a hell of a lot worse.

You can check out our game I can break down podcast which is released Wednesday, wave a wire edition on Tuesday. We back with some DFS and injury goodness on Friday, but living in the moment I am here at a very special guest day.

You all know senior fancy football bar, rather for the athletic at all in kid on Twitter, none other than Jake silly Jake. Thank you so much for the time and first time we've actually been able to talk.

You know, I've been a long time fan over on the old Twitter sphere.

I know yeah, we've tried to get together a couple times. I appreciate it. I almost had my dorth, my Darth Vader mask on for my podcast right before I came on. I almost was going to keep it on to surprise you, but I had it.

You can't get inside of it because it's a full on and I had it itch because sweat was running down my and I couldn't scratch this part of my face as like man, that should be a form of torture is just having like a itch you're not allowed to scratch.

That would have been a ball of root to show up with the Darth Vader helmet like not even acknowledging it just business as usual.

Just show up and just like not even say anything because he like what's up. You're ready to roll.

I was I saw like my high school football helmet in my office and I tried to like I just put it on for some dumb reason probably had a little too much one one of these nights.

Not that long ago and like my ear holes and then or whatever were just like falling apart of this point so I had all this black going to my hair for like the next day.

I was like what am I even trying to accomplish here, but Jake we thank you for your time again and the focus today's episode is just going to be taking you know a little bit more of a macro view on the fantasy football world.

Now that we have seven weeks of evidence in you know we all get February through basically August every uniform or opinions on things.

I think it's good to go back see the results and maybe see where we could have been a little bit different based on the over and under achievers so far.

So let's kick things off with quarterback again people the thesis for this kind of episode.

I just took the recurrent ranks looked at where the ADP was at the end of August and trying to really highlight the guys that everyone was a bit too high on and maybe a bit too low on.

So look at some of the under achievers.

There's actually only six quarterbacks with at least a double digit difference between their ADP and their rank right now three of them are rookies and Trevor Lawrence Justin feels and trade Lance.

Do you think this is a lesson made for the future to chill out on first year signal callers or is this just a case of man I was trail answers under center.

I think it's both I think it can be a lesson to not go crazy in general to quarterbacks flat and unless you get one of the top six or seven just wait and wait we say that all time and everybody's like oh you know how what have been doing this for 10 I mean I don't know like how long everybody's been doing I think my mind was like I've been doing it for almost 11 years now I'm just saying like you know we've always known weight on quarterback.

But once you get past those top six seven or eight whatever it might change year to year I get it to a degree because what's the difference between you know I'm looking at preseason rankings what's the difference between if you want to take her cousins or if you wanted to go for trail Lance because you know what trail Lance could be if he is the starter we know trail Lance on his Russian side alone could be very similar to Jalen Hertz who is looked pretty terrible at times throwing the ball but we don't care because we're playing fantasy we're not playing real life when it comes to that.

And that's really what it comes down to. And so yes you can go too far with it now should you have taken trail Lance as the 13th quarterback off the board. No but at the same time if you were coming out of dress and saying you know what my first quarterback will be Ryan Tana Hill I'll get him you know in the 10th round and then for my last pick I'll stash fields I'll stash Lance and something like that that's where it's okay so I think this is the one position of everything we're going to talk about today where yes it looks a greas just now because you know I'm not going to say I'm not going to say it's not going to be the first.

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