I'm Gilbert Cruz.

And I'm Jumanika Thib.

We are both editors at the New York Times Book Review.

And Stuff is about to get real here in the world of books.

Because despite whatever temperature it actually is outside, fall book season

is here. So between now and the end of the year, you're going to hear about so many books,

so many books. And we think you should hear about them here first. So Jumana and I, as we do

every season, are here with a preview. We're going to look ahead at some of the bigger titles out over the next several months. Right? I'm so excited. That's what we're going to do. Fall is legit. I mean, we say this every year, but it bears repeating that fall is really the best season to be a new book lover, is what I will say. It's also the best season to be out in the world.

To be a person.

To wear clothing.

Cardigans.

To be in New York City, period.

True.

Not, I told somebody the other day that just given the consistent humidity levels in New York City that I have been feeling more and more like the love interest in the shape of water.

In the sense that I am just always somewhat moist and amphibious at this point. You're just a fish man over here?

Yeah. Yeah. So lovely to meet you listeners. Yeah. So I'm counting the hours until fall.

Do you do you wear cardigans or do you just wear sweaters? I used to wear cardigans. I like

a pullover now. What I care more about is the composition, natural fibers only, no polyester.

Okay. Yeah. Let's start. We're going to go back and forth as we always do, Jibon. And I'm going to start

with a big piece of popular fiction

that's coming out in early September. It is a book by Dan Brown, and he has a book called

The Secret of Secrets, and it stars Robert Langdon, who is the star of many of his books,

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