All right, what's up guys? Welcome to the 10 minute walk talk. This is Chris Bell.

I'm here in Los Angeles with my good buddy Daniel Arrego.

Daniel is a co-founder of the Epigenics Foundation, an amazing foundation that has been helping to treat cancer and other diseases with the ketogenic diet. Now Daniel has been involved with this since the

inception of it and why don't you tell us a little bit about what kind of

diseases that a ketogenic diet can treat and why and what you guys are

doing with it. Sure so you know at Epigenics Foundation what we're really

interested in is understanding the intersection of metabolism and disease.

And obviously you mentioned cancer and that fits within that profile.

But beyond that, we're really looking at what we like to call the five deadly square of scourges right so that includes cancer,

obesity, diabetes, cognitive decline and cardiac disease.

And of those, it's really diabetes that's the low hanging fruit to the extent that even with

you know a type 2 diabetes just a low car of nutritional intervention, let alone a ketogenic nutritional intervention, can dramatically change health

outcomes for people who are struggling with metabolic syndrome or full-blown type 2 diabetes.

So you've you've actually been using this in things like treating brain cancer patients right and can you tell us a little bit about the success in those

cases? Absolutely you know the guys who really put this on on the map for us were

Dr Peter Attia former former head of New Sea, the Nutrition Science Initiative, and Dr.

Dominic Dagueno, who's a cancer researcher at University of Southern Florida.

And what they really gave us an appreciation for was

fat metabolism and how how fat metabolism can alter disease progression and so when they when they really explain the fundamentals of this to us and

showed us the research, really the seminal research that was done by Dr Thomas

Cefree, that showed that putting brain cancer patients, specifically

glial blastoma patients who were past standard of care. In other words, the

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