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So you weren't a golfer when you were drinking? No. So when did golf come in July?

Golf was a vehicle to see my friends. Right. When I made that decision to give up alcohol.

Really? Yeah. So my brother and who I do the channel with

yeah he was always the golfer of the family I was actually quite good at football

yeah when I was younger like I played semi-pro before I joined soccer a m

but golf I used to be like I found it so frustrating don't get wrong I still do

yeah yeah I'd be like I'd get player like three or four holes to be like, I found it so frustrating. Don't get me wrong, I still do. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'd be like, I'd play a like three or four holes and be like, I don't, I don't, this is boring.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Should we just go to the halfway heart and get a few beers?

Right.

Do I mean?

So when I gave up alcohol, I was like, what can I do to spend time with my friends? Yeah. Which doesn't involve going to the pub. The pub, yeah. So I was like, I'm going to give golf a go. So from going from like I could only play three or four holes and getting bored, I could now play 36. Wow. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Like I love it.

Just because you're out there, it's, you know, a good walk. I like walking around the golf course, find it quite therapeutic. And it's a good way to spend time with your friends. And have a laugh, do you know what I mean? Oh yeah, so it's funny. I mean, we talked about it on your show, but for me, it was,

I was a few years into sobriety, you know, and I was like, life was great. Yeah. But a friend of mine who's in sobriety was like, do you have a hobby? I was getting quite frustrated, you know, quite kind of like overwhelmed with work and life and kids and everything. I was just like, it was all I did was work and be a dad. It's just the best job in the world.

Don't be wrong.

But, you know, I was like, I didn't really have anything else. And it was like, you need a hobby. And I was like, I was like, what do you mean? You know, I was like, well, I play guitar. It was like, that's your job. It doesn't fucking count. You need something away from work, something's just for you.

And I was like, right, okay.

So I wrote down a list of things that I could do.

First one, they came to mine, oh, golf. You know, I was like, all right, I'll try that first. Why did you write that? Just out of interest? Well, to me honest, when I was 21, right, I was in a really bad way with drink. Right. and my manager, my band's manager, was a golfer. And he was going away with his mum and dad to a place in Spain. Yeah. The record company were proper pissed off me because I was supposed to make an album and I wasn't turning up. I was just pissed all the time. Yeah, yeah. And so he was like, right, I'm going to get you the fuck out of London. He goes, come with me, we're going to Spain. It's a golf resort, but you can do what you want. We'll be together and just get you out of London for a bit. So I went out with him and I played like twice on the range, I think, and like then just got pissed the entire time. but I was like, oh, golf is wicked. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone drinks and everyone like,

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