#10 - John Zmirak and Todd Chatman
The Eric Metaxas Show
Metaxas Media
4.6 • 3.6K Ratings
🗓️ 27 November 2025
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
Eric Metaxas begins the episode with Todd Chatman from Christian Solidarity International, who shares the stunning reality that slavery is still happening today in Sudan and explains how CSI has already freed more than 120,000 people. Todd describes how every $250 gift directly rescues an enslaved person and provides the essentials needed to start a new life. In the second half, John Zmirak joins Eric for a sobering look at America’s cultural decline and asks whether we are drifting toward a soft totalitarian state. Zmirak explains how ideology, propaganda, and weaponized compassion are reshaping society and why Christians must recover discernment before freedoms vanish. The episode connects global injustice with domestic cultural decay in one urgent conversation.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
0:51 Todd Chatman On Sudan Slavery
22:25 John Zmirak Joins Show
25:03 Tribalism And Golden Mean
29:27 Racism, Tribalism, White Demonization
34:57 Immigration, Diversity And Chaos
49:20 Young Men, Resentment And Fuentes
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| 0:00.0 | Hey there folks, exciting news. As you probably know, if you've been following me for any number of |
| 0:04.7 | years, at this time of year, in the words of Bugs Bunny, at this joyous time of year, we bring you |
| 0:11.7 | loads of Christmas cheer. What is the Christmas cheer? Well, we get to do something, |
| 0:17.6 | I say it every time. It's almost unbelievable. It's almost unbelievable. |
| 0:25.0 | And because people misuse and overuse the word literally, it has come to be meaningless. |
| 0:30.4 | So listen carefully. We have the opportunity to literally free slaves. That's the headline, folks. That's what we get to do |
| 0:43.0 | each year at this time of year, at this happy time of year. We get to do something that seems |
| 0:49.8 | unbelievable. How do we do it? Well, I'm going to tell you right now. We work with Christian |
| 0:55.5 | Solidarity International. And right now I have as my guest, Todd Chapman, who comes on here |
| 1:03.3 | every year to tell us about this. |
| 1:09.9 | So Todd Chapman, every time you come on this program is to talk about this just extraordinary opportunity. |
| 1:20.6 | Ladies and gentlemen, you know I'm not blowing smoke. |
| 1:22.4 | This is a big deal. |
| 1:23.3 | Todd, welcome back. |
| 1:24.8 | Hey, thanks, Eric. |
| 1:25.6 | Always love to be on with you. |
| 1:27.6 | And I always love to invite your listeners into what God is doing through CSI. |
| 1:31.4 | It's a well-kept secret, but such a profound need in every year your listeners. |
| 1:35.5 | And now your viewers on the, on YouTube and your podcast channel make a huge difference. |
| 1:41.3 | Well, every year, people really go crazy for this because they see that this is real, |
| 1:47.6 | that you can literally free slaves. And I guess what I want to explain and what I want you to |
| 1:52.5 | explain, help my audience who doesn't know about this, understand what we are talking about, |
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