The The Oh, So, Welcome to yet another edition of the Thought Police. This is the first time

Matt that we're doing two podcasts in a week so I don't need to be

you know in any way intimidated by the fact that you might be worn out and

have it be spoken already earlier on this week we talked about the amazing

sporting weekend but I think it's time to return

to matters at hand in the world of politics.

You're Matt Kelly, editor of the New European.

Have you ever been told by anyone in your career as a journalist that you can't do something that you

can't run a story that you can't invade somebody's privacy that you can't you

know break a national secret I mean if you ever been in that sort of

situation not not to the degree that we're seeing now I mean I've been told by

proprietors steer clear of this have you yeah because you see I never really

have people always say to me well when you were in Fleet Street, it must have been the way, the case that you were doing Rupert Murdoch's bidding or, you know, somebody was telling you that you couldn't run particular stories I've never actually

had it maybe I've just been lucky well I was at so when I was at the mirror yeah and it's only

literally two or three times over the course of 18 years when somebody has said if we do this it's not a great story but it

will screw up a huge advertising contract and I have to be honest with you and say that, you know, A, the decision wasn't mine, but, you know, the tendency was as newspaper revenues collapsed, that you got more and more likely to agree to that kind of thing and that is a big problem now because you know in the old days when I started with the mirror I remember the editor standing on the you know with his one foot up on the back bench just telling the managing director to f off, you know,

and shove you in adverts.

Well, because in the old days, basically advertisers were honoured to be in the paper because

it used to be, I remember my dad telling me me it's the only way you can advertise

something completely nationally from John and Groix to Land's End everybody gets the

same advert you can't do that on TV and I suppose that's no longer true one but it was true in those days you know well you you see how it's encroaching now on

titles in a very meaningful way because I mean it's not uncommon now to see a like a 10 centimeter advert across the bottom of the

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