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10. Frank

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BBC

True Crime

4.7797 Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Mark travels to where Freddie Scappaticci lived after he disappeared from Belfast. A news report we featured from 1987 inspires a man to get in touch with the podcast.

Credits

Reporter: Mark Horgan Produced and written by: Mark Horgan and Ciarán Cassidy Co-Producer: Paddy Fee Editing and Sound Design: Ciarán Cassidy Composer: Michael Fleming Sound mixing: Ger McDonnell Theme tune by Lankum Artwork by Conor Merriman Assistant Commissioners for BBC: Lorraine Okuefuna and Sarah Green. Commissioning Editor for BBC: Dylan Haskins

Stakeknife is a Second Captains & Little Wing production for BBC Sounds.

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts.

0:04.9

You're about to listen to a brand new episode of Steakknife, the second series of cover.

0:09.6

Episodes are released weekly, wherever you get your podcast, but if you're in the UK,

0:13.1

you can listen to the latest episodes right now, first on BBC Sounds.

0:17.5

And this episode contains interviews that some listeners may find upsetting and some occasional

0:21.8

strong language. Episode 10, Frank. I'm in a hotel in Belfast, walking down a quiet corridor on my

0:36.2

way to meet someone, a person and a family

0:39.0

directly connected to Freddy's Capitici.

0:44.2

Hi, yeah, sorry.

0:48.3

This meeting came about due to a strange coincidence earlier in the series.

0:53.7

In our first episode, there was a section about the culture of informers throughout the troubles.

0:59.1

Anne Cadwallader, the journalist, spoke about this culture and the dirty intelligence war.

1:05.4

It was just horrible. The whole thing, the whole history and background and context of informers, agents,

1:14.7

double agents, triple agents, people lying to their friends, their families, their community

1:20.4

in order to protect their own skins and the state taking advantage of that.

1:25.9

I found that whole scenario repulsive.

1:32.3

Directly after Anne spoke, there were two pieces of archive,

1:36.3

the first family voices of alleged informers that you heard in this series.

1:41.3

My brother was no informer.

1:45.6

He knew nothing about the provisional IRA.

1:48.4

My brother was never an informer.

1:54.1

He's not...

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