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60 Minutes

10/19/2025: The Dealmakers, Erez Reuveni, Amy Sherald

60 Minutes

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42.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

After a historic Middle East peace deal was signed last week, correspondent Lesley Stahl sits down for an exclusive interview with President Trump’s envoys and the leading brokers of the agreement: Jared Kushner, former White House advisor and son-in-law of the president, and Steve Witkoff, Middle East envoy under Trump. Kushner and Witkoff discuss their unconventional deal-driven approach, including meeting Hamas in person, and the next phase of the 20-point peace plan, which aims to tackle thorny issues like disarmament, aid, troop pullback, rebuilding, and postwar governance. Correspondent Scott Pelley reports on the tense relationship between the Department of Justice and the courts. Pelley speaks with Erez Reuveni, a 15-year Justice Department attorney - in his first television interview – about a pattern of troubling behavior he says he witnessed before he was fired. Correspondent Anderson Cooper profiles painter Amy Sherald, best known for her portrait of Michelle Obama. He traces her rise from obscurity to becoming one of America’s most celebrated living artists. Sherald explains why she canceled her own career retrospective at the Smithsonian’s National Portrait Gallery, and reflects on the resilience behind her vibrant, optimistic work. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Tonight, President Trump's hand-picked deal-makers take us inside the negotiations between Israel and Hamas

0:15.0

that led to a breakthrough in one of the world's most intractable conflicts.

0:20.0

I heard the president asked you what the chances were for success.

0:24.6

Yes.

0:25.6

And you said...

0:26.6

100%. And he said, why do you feel so confident?

0:29.6

Yeah.

0:30.6

And I said, well, we can't afford to fail.

0:32.6

I felt like a bomb had gone off.

0:36.6

Eris Ravani won awards as a government attorney in the first Trump administration.

0:43.3

Now he's been fired, he says, for standing up to lawlessness in the Department of Justice.

0:50.3

There was a pattern and practice at the direction of DOJ leadership to ignore court orders, and worst of all, to lie.

1:01.0

Amy Sherrill's paintings have sold for as much as $4 million and are often compared to work by the great masters of American realism.

1:10.0

Does that make sense to you in any way?

1:11.6

It's technically what I want it as a black woman, artist, American, for people to be like,

1:17.6

yeah, Amy Cheryl, Norman Rockwell, Edward Hopper, like, I'm in the room with the guys.

1:22.6

And so I think I'm okay with it.

1:25.6

Yeah, I think I'm okay.

1:26.6

Not a bad room to be in.

1:27.6

No.

1:28.2

Yeah.

1:31.1

I'm Leslie Stahl.

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