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birding travel is larger than lifers all for birding dot com hello and welcome to the american

birding podcast from the american birding association i am your host, Nate Swick. It's the end of February,

which means it's time for this month in burning. And look, I'm not going to beat around the bush here.

It is a really good one. And I think anything I see here at the top is just kind of killing time

until we get to the good stuff, which is a conversation between Jason Hall of Birdjoy podcast,

Sarah Swanson of the

Bird Alliance of Oregon and Miko Jimenez of the Lincoln Park Zoo Urban Wildlife Institute.

Oh, I do have one little observation that I had the other day that is mostly unrelated to

anything we'll discuss later in the podcast. I was driving down the highway and I saw a common raven fly over,

which is always kind of a neat bird to see in central North Carolina, where I live. And it flew

over to one of those, you know, big billboards that are alongside the highway and perched right

next to a pair of black vultures. And it was actually bigger than the black vultures.

And I don't know what it was about the juxtaposition of those two birds,

but it made me feel really weird and sort of rocked me to my core,

and I've been thinking about it all day.

I don't think I've ever seen those two species together.

And, yeah, how bizarre.

Anyway, there's probably something there about birds that you see that are way larger or smaller than you expect.

But both of those species are birds that I've seen many, many times, but never together.

Anyway, well, I reckon with the existential

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