So how do we build the house of the Lord?

How does the Church of Jesus get built up?

An amazing interview with my friend, Bob Gladstone, coming next.

It's time for The Line of Fire with your host, activist, author, international speaker, and theologian, Dr. Michael Brown,

your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution.

Michael Brown is the director of the Coalition of Conscience and President of Fire School of Ministry.

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Here again is Dr. Michael Brown.

My guest, Bob Gladstone, says it's time for a Jesus movement. It is time to build the house of the Lord.

Bob Gladstone and I have worked together now since late 96, early 97. He has taught at Brownsville School of Ministry, which became fire.

School of Ministry has poured into our students and grads for over two decades, has raised his

kids in the ways of the Lord, has pioneered a network of house churches called the King's People,

and has now written a book. I've been waiting for this book for many, many years. It's called A Time to Build, A Time to Build, Revival, the Church and God's Eternal Purpose. Bob, great to have you on the line of fire at long last with your book. It's Time to Build.

Amazing privilege to be here, and your encouragement and support are all over that book well um we've been in

this for many years together as i said and i have seen over the years bob your great love for

scripture you love the things of the spirit. You love practical

ministry. And at the same time, in harmony with that, you are a word-based person, ultimately

learning a PhD in New Testament studies. I had the privilege of being one of your dissertation

readers. And it's out of your love for the word that you are convinced that God has a pattern, not detailed

in every last dimension, but that God has a pattern for the building of the church.

Why do you believe that Jesus has given us a blueprint for what it means to build the house

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