Welcome to the Normal to Nomad podcast where we share stories, thoughts, ideas, and conversations on our journey to find balance with nature in a technologically advanced world.

We're coming to you today from the windy grand staircase of Utah.

It is very windy and it has been and we're inside of our scamp recording this.

My name's Barron. I love the outdoors, rock climbing, learning and teaching,

and computers and reptiles,

and I'm a web developer,

and I want to be Steve Irwin when I grow up.

You're like the quintessential mountain man, too.

Well, yeah, maybe.

And I am Elsa, an artist, video editor.

I have a YouTube channel with close to a quarter of a million subscribers that we have been pushing all of our scamp travels onto for the last couple years now.

We live together in a 13-foot scamp trailer with our dog camp.

He's a Shiba you knew. He looks like a fox and acts like a cat.

And he's sleeping right over on the bed right now. We're sitting on the bench,

trying to hide away from all this wind coming into the windows.

So today on this podcast we're going to tell you the story of how and why

we decided to live nomadically in our

tiny little trailer and kind of how that's gone what we've learned and some of the

exciting stories that we've gathered along the way. For those of you who haven't seen

the YouTube channel we have a video on why we chose to live in the scamp. It's a pretty

detailed and awesome video that we put a lot of time into, but the brief of how we found

the scamp. I don't know, we'd been renting for a long time. We had rented, the first

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