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Hey everybody, we are back on the bench number two in our one on one interview series. You guys loved you love session one. Here's session two. Let's hope I don't screw it up. I don't think I will because we have a very honored and distinguished guest.

Yes, PN zone, college football analyst, college football writer, college football, Sevant, analytics expert, ACC expert David Hale David. I am damn excited to talk to my friend. How are you doing?

This is setting a senior high bar that there is no chance I'm going to live up to, but I'll take it. I can't spell Sevant, but I will I will happily be called that. Yes.

Well, you pronounced it like a French dignitary. So good.

I'm updating my business cards as we speak.

Yeah, I really, and it's been cool. This interview series. We're only two in, but I've really like enjoyed, you know, the first conversation. I'm really excited to talk to you because I enjoy the stuff that you do.

For ESPN, there's a there's a huge focus on the Atlantic coast conference. I like the way that you delve into the data analytically.

And one thing that I think is a that I really wanted to like chew into with you right now is it's silly season when it comes to conference realignment UCLA USC have joined the big 10.

The internet's blown up swim fan websites have been that of course they are the they are the go to for college football realignment news.

I get most of my news. Absolutely. I mean, if you're going to trust like water sports for your CFB realignment, I'm a big jet ski guy, the jet ski catcher.

Well, trust. Well, I was just going to say if you can't trust a guy on a jet ski, who can you trust? That is the they've put forth the time and effort to get a jet ski. Of course they're doing their research.

No one just goes out and buys a jet ski while Willie nilly. Those are research oriented people. Absolutely. And the maintenance to keep it running conscientious as well. Once again, you and I kindred spirits.

But jet skis aside, I mean what the big thing in this is can Florida state specifically and all the other ACC schools get out of the ACC grant of rights. David, you had a really, really good Twitter thread that I encourage all you guys that are listening.

It's on July 11th that basically like to spelled a lot of this stuff. But David, just for the uninitiated, what is the grant of rights and why is it such a hindrance to Florida state.

Do on what they haven't said it, but they want out of the ACC. They want to why is it such a hindrance. What is it?

So basically here's the very dumb down legal version of this.

It is a document that effectively signs over the rights, their media rights to the ACC for a term of in this case through 2036. What does that mean? That means that the ACC controls the ability to broadcast home games for each of these teams through 2036.

So let's say Florida state wanted to leave and go to the SEC.

Okay.

The problems that they're going to run into there are that one, there is an exit fee to leave the league, which is three times annual revenue, which for you know, shorthand math is about $120 million that it's money Florida state does not have.

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