Welcome to a special edition of the No Dunks podcast. I'm Leales.

Today I'm joined by a legend from the Australian and international basketball world.

He's a four-time Olympian, had two stints in the NBA,

once playing for the Minnesota Timberwolves and later for the San Antonio Spurs.

He spent most of his professional career

playing in Australia's Premier League, the NBL,

winning the championship with the Sydney Kings in 2003,

and he joins me from his home in Sydney via Zoom.

He is Shane the Hammer Hill.

Shane, thanks for joining me.

What an introduction. Thanks. And nice to be able to talk some hoops. Yeah. Well, that's

that's what we're here for to talk about hoops. But first off, how's the situation there in Sydney?

Are you allowed outside? You're allowed to mingle. I know it's been a little bit up and down there

in Australia. But what's the situation currently in Sydney? Yeah, I mean, we've been very, very fortunate. We haven't had any cases for a handful of days now in New South Wales. So, you know, wearing masks and those sort of things and, you know, having to check in when you go and get a coffee or something to eat. So all of that tracing's big time here in Australia, but we're very fortunate

compared to the rest of the world.

Especially where I am here in Atlanta. We're a long way away from that.

But hopefully today is the start of something new. But anyway, we're here to talk basketball.

So let's talk first of all about the NBA. And the biggest story, I think, still, from this early season, the big trade. James Harden goes from the Houston Rockets and to the Brooklyn Nets. Now, before we talk about the trade, what were your thoughts on how James Hardin sort of played his way out of Houston there? I mean, if he was your teammate and he kind of acted the way that he did and kind of called out his

teammates, he didn't really show up, how would you have handled that situation in the locker

room? Well, a couple of things. I've got to go on record to start with and say that I am not

a James Hardin fan. I can certainly respect his ability and his talent.

What he can do is absolutely unbelievable.

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