1 John 5:1: Does Regeneration Precede Faith?
Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers
Leighton Flowers
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🗓️ 14 November 2025
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
Dr. David Allen is back to remind Dr. James White that his recent arguments concerning 1 John 5:1 have long been refuted by Provisionist, Arminians and YES even Calvinists! Join us to learn more about the "Ordo Salutis" and the Calvinist's error of getting the cart before the horse regarding what 1 John 5:1 is all about.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome back to SoTriology 101. |
| 0:13.2 | As you can see, Dr. David Allen is back with us. |
| 0:15.9 | Welcome, Dr. Allen, to the program. |
| 0:17.6 | Oh, thank you, Dr. Flowers. |
| 0:19.5 | It's always a privilege to be with you. Well, I am always |
| 0:24.7 | honored to have you on, and this is a special broadcast because we were not expecting to do this |
| 0:30.0 | until yesterday evening, really. It's just something that came up recently. For those are not |
| 0:35.5 | been following the Twitter exchange exchange recently, one of our |
| 0:40.2 | favorite interlocutors and I guess the one who most loudly pushes back against provisionism |
| 0:46.5 | online is Dr. James White, who has issued a provisionist challenge on 1st John 5.1. For those that don't |
| 0:52.7 | know, 1st John 5.1 is one of the few, if not only |
| 0:55.5 | proof text that Calvinists have to illustrate their concept and idea that regeneration precedes faith. |
| 1:03.2 | We've been over this before in our broadcast. If you're a long-time listener, you've heard us |
| 1:06.8 | talk about this quite a bit over the years, and we're going to get into it a little bit more. |
| 1:12.1 | But what Dr. White does here is he issues the challenge, specifically calling out Dr. David |
| 1:16.7 | Allen, because let's just face it, Dr. Allen is one of the academic leaders within the |
| 1:22.0 | provisionist movement or traditional Southern Baptist movement and has been a good spokesman |
| 1:26.3 | for provisionism and has the academic |
| 1:29.2 | pedigree to to to I think face any a challenge that's brought but he makes a challenge to the |
| 1:36.3 | provisionist movement and specifically calls out Dr. David Allen and says since you have yet in other |
| 1:41.5 | words he's claiming that we have not yet addressed the grammatical |
| 1:45.6 | issues surrounding 1 John 5.1. We have not given an exegesis to really combat what he feels |
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