Shaheen Cheyenne is the guest today. Did I say your name correctly?

Thank you for pronouncing it correctly. Yeah. Thanks for having me on, dude.

Yeah, man. Welcome. You have a very cool name, but also a very cool story.

Arguably, is it true that you arguably created the first neotropic?

Yeah, look, I think humans have been using neutropics for thousands of years.

So I don't think there's any argument to the fact that I did not do it.

But I did invent the first legal alternative to ecstasy back in the 90s, created a billion dollars in revenue, did it

all as a teenager, and was pretty freaking successful at doing that and creating a movement

around it. So you did a billion dollars in revenue when you were 15. How do uh, how do you, how do you handle that?

In my teens, not exactly when I was 15. It's probably a little bit after that, but very,

very poorly, it turns out. Yeah. When you're young and like me and I dropped out of school

and I kind of went out looking for my fame and fortune,

got involved in the electronic music scene, saw that the only people that were making

money were the drug dealers realized very quickly that I was really bad at crime, and crime

should not be a direction that I go in, looked for an alternative, came up with this thing,

and was hugely successful from day one.

Now, being a teenager and having access to anything that you want is glorious.

I mean, anybody that tells you being rich and young is not fun, has not done it.

However, at the same time,

I was very good in making money and really bad at keeping it, which is where I think probably

some financial education would have helped back then. But Jeff, I think I'm better for it now.

Yeah. Okay. What is one of the coolest things you bought back then when you were a teenager and you got

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