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Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews

1/26/23 David Swanson on What Russia Could Have Done Instead of Invading Ukraine

Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews

Scott Horton

News, Politics

4.8902 Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2023

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Scott brings on David Swanson to discuss the war in Ukraine. Scott and many of his guests have spent a lot of time explaining all the ways the U.S. and NATO unnecessarily backed Russia into a corner. But there are, in fact, plenty of things Moscow could have done to address the situation that didn’t involve invading Ukraine—which has only emboldened NATO and destroyed countless lives and livelihoods. Scott and Swanson also discuss the Rage Against the War Machine rally on February 19th in Washington DC where they will both be speaking. Discussed on the show: “30 Nonviolent Things Russia Could Have Done and 30 Nonviolent Things Ukraine Could Do” (DavidSwanson.org) RageAgainstWar.com David Swanson is an author, activist, journalist, radio host, and Nobel Peace Prize Nominee. He is the author of War is a Lie, When the World Outlawed War and Leaving World War II Behind. Find him on Twitter @davidcnswanson. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

For Pacifica Radio, January the 26th, 2023.

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I'm Scott Horton.

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This is Anti War Radio. All right, y'all welcome the show. It is anti-war radio. I'm your host Scott Horton.

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I'm the editorial director of anti-war.com and editor of the new book, Hotter than the Sun, Time to Abolish Nuclear Weapons.

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You find my full interview archive, more than 5,800 of them now going back to 2003 at

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Scott Horton.org and at YouTube.com

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slash Scott Horton Show

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and you can follow me on Twitter if you dare at Scott Horton's show.

0:49.6

All right you guys and our next guest is the great David Swanson. I've known him since at least the Downing Street memos came out

0:57.6

What 19 years ago something like that and he's just been a great anti-war activist, has written all kinds of great books, including

1:05.3

one criticizing America's participation in World War II, the holiest war.

1:11.8

So very happy to have David Swanson back on the show. How are you doing, sir?

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Terrific, Scott, great to be with you. Well, I sure appreciate you joining us today and

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I'll only take partial credit because I think they may

1:24.3

have already decided to get you but I told the organizers you gotta get David Swanson for our big

1:30.0

anti-war protest at the Lincoln Memorial on Sunday, February the 19th, and they went and did it.

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So I'm so glad I get to see you again there.

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And I'm just very curious, sir, what's your speech going to be about?

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Well I don't know the event of course is called Rage Against the War Machine

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and the website is Rage Against War.com and I'm looking forward to being there and I

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expect to do a little raging against the war machine. Of course I will speak

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against US warmaking and Russian war-making, which will blow some circuit in most human brains, because

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