Welcome to part two with Dr. Barbara Morgan Gardner first and second Timothy

Titus and Philemon. Barb we've been at this for a while and we have covered a

little bit of second Timothy and a little bit of Titus but let's keep going

here. Hank there's so much to cover here we could be here all week but there's

some other important principles that perhaps would be helpful. Maybe chapter

three where we start talking about bishops, disinverse one, this is a true

saying if a man desire the office of a bishop he desire a good work. I

I as a woman and the way the church is currently structured and has

been structured for a long time I cannot see myself ever being a bishop but I

will say for those bishops that I have had in my life I'm so grateful for

them. I don't know of many who desired to be that. What is your experience?

Have you do you guys want to be? Well every time the bishop vacancy comes up I

put signs in my yard saying Smith for bishops Smith for bishops and for some

reason they never choose me so I can't imagine why.

Barb I imagine we have a few bishops listening who are interested in first

Timothy chapter three. What would you say to these men who are in callings?

They probably did not see. Such a great question. I just considered it my

own life. The many bishops I've had since I've been a child. I can remember my

interview with the bishop for baptism. I remember pleading with my bishop

elder to let me go on a mission when I was 19 and he wouldn't let me

know how things have changed. But I remember his goodness and his kindness. I

remember one bishop that I just loved dearly in my youth saying to me,

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