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Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews

1/19/23 Branko Marcetic: Cables Expose Washington’s NATO Expansion Lies

Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews

Scott Horton

News, Politics

4.8902 Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2023

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Scott talks with Branko Marcetic about some cables he recently dug up that show U.S. officials and western governments voicing concern about Russia’s reaction to NATO expansion going back to the 1990s. Marcetic’s work adds to the evidence that shatters the argument that anyone connecting NATO expansion to the February invasion is either an amplifier or victim of a Russian disinformation operation. Scott and Marcetic go over what he found and zoom out to examine the broader context. Discussed on the show: “Diplomatic Cables Show Russia Saw NATO Expansion as a Red Line” (ACURA) “Ignoring Gorbachev’s Warnings” (Current Affairs) “‘Now or Never’: The Immediate Origins of Putin’s Preventative War on Ukraine” (Journal of Military and Strategic Studies) Retired General Wesely Clark saying the US cannot let nuclear weapons deter its efforts Branko Marcetic is a writer for Jacobin Magazine, a fellow at In These Times, and host of the 1/200 podcast. He is the author of Yesterday’s Man: The Case Against Joe Biden. Follow him on Twitter @BMarchetich. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Branko March Teach, uh, usually writing for Jacobin, this one is an exclusive for Acura Viewpoint. That's the American Committee on U.S. Russian Affairs, I guess.

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You know, James Cardin and all our friends over there and man this is such an awesome article and I'm kind of mad at you Bronco because I got a couple hundred pages worth of notes that I'm working through and then at the end was do another dive into the

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WikiLeaks and see what else is in there and you beat me to the punch and so my

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600-page book eventually is going to come out and everyone's going to think that all I did

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is just plagiarize you and Ted Snyder.

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You do all this great work and I have to borrow some of it.

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This is groundbreaking stuff. This is great stuff. You went back to the

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WikiLeaks and said, well, yet means yet is fun, but let's find out what else is in there. And you found a ton more

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documents in the State Department cables of

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