1/14/22 Ray McGovern on the US-Russia Talks

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🗓️ 17 January 2022

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Ray McGovern is back to discuss the recent talks between Putin and the Biden Administration. McGovern observes that the talks, framed as a tense battle over Ukrainian sovereignty, appear to have actually steered towards a discussion about arms control in the region. A discussion that’s grown in necessity since the Trump Administration abruptly left a nuclear treaty with Russia. Scott and McGovern also talk about the collapsing narrative that the Russians are set to invade Ukraine any day now. Discussed on the show: “Peeking Past the Pall Put Over Arms Talks With Russia” (Antiwar.com) Ray McGovern is the co-creator of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity and the former chief of the CIA’s Soviet analysts division. Read all of his work at his website: raymcgovern.com. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:01.2	All right you guys on the line. I've got Ray McGovern and of course former
1:06.2	CIA analyst former chief of the CIA Soviet division back when and he spent this whole century long being a peace activist.
1:15.5	Of course, he's co-founder of veteran intelligence professionals for sanity and regular
1:20.3	writer for us at anti-war.com where his latest is called
1:24.7	Peaking Past the Paul put over arms talks with Russia. Welcome back Ray how are you
1:30.5	sir? I'm good Scott how are you doing? I'm good Scott. How are you doing? I'm doing great. I really
1:34.6	appreciate you joining us today to follow up on our recent conversation and
1:40.0	you know essentially to catch us up since the talks that happened this week between the Americans and the Russians.
1:46.6	So I guess go ahead break it down.
1:50.0	What were the major issues at play and what all if anything got accomplished?
1:56.5	Well there are two tracks here. One is the demand that NATO closed its stores to Ukraine and Georgia. That of course is what is
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