You're listening to The West Wing Weekly. I'm Joshua Molina.

And I'm Rishi K. Shereway. This is episode two of The West Wing Weekly.

And all the skeptics and the spreaders of Doom said we wouldn't reach this milestone,

but Rishi here we are, episode two. We did it.

I think the only person who was spreading Doom to me was you.

Yeah, nevertheless, despite my cynicism, we made it.

We did. Our pilot got picked up by us.

Exactly. That's what it is. I'm an actor.

So just getting to episode two, oh my God, that rarely happens.

And yet we've done it.

And so to The West Wing, this is their first episode after getting picked up.

It's called Post-Hawk, Ergo Propter Hawk.

Yes, Aaron Sorkin obviously consumed with regret

and having titled The Pilot Pilot

was like, what can I do to grossly overcompensate

for that simple first episode title?

He's like, I know. I'll throw out some lap.

27 lawyers in the room. Anybody know?

Post-Hawk, Ergo Propter Hawk.

Josh, post after, after-hawk, Ergo, therefore,

after-hawk, therefore something else, Hawk.

All the things that we talked about on The Pilot

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