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Hi, I'm Willow Belden and you're listening to Out There, the podcast that explores big questions through intimate stories outdoors.

This season is all about silence.

For some of us, silence is golden.

It's something we actively seek out.

It's why we go outside.

Because that quiet, that stillness that you find in nature, is deeply calming.

But that's not the case for everyone. Some people really struggle with silence. And today, we're going to hear from one of those people. This is a story about what happens when silence sparks panic.

And it's about going outdoors in hopes of conquering your fears.

Amber von Schassen has the story, and just so you know, this episode describes a shooting and includes adult language.

I love a challenge, not a hard, strenuous challenge. More like, what if I woke up every day at sunrise?

So it would go like, beep, beep, beep, beep.

That's my mom, describing the oven timer I used as an alarm clock that year.

And so even though my door would be closed and I was across the house, I would hear it.

And my little Amber was fast asleep in her room ignoring the timer.

And then there was the challenge where I ate every meal with another person for a month.

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