You're listening to the Decluttered Mom podcast.

A podcast built specifically for busy moms by a busy mom.

I'm your host, Diana Renee.

And in 2017, I had my second daughter and it felt like I was literally drowning in my home. Okay, not literally,

but I felt like I couldn't breathe with all of the stuff surrounding me. Over the next 10 months,

I got rid of approximately 70% of our household belongings and I have never looked back. I kind of feel like I hacked the mom

system and I'm here to share all the tips, tricks, and encouragement. Let's listen to today's show.

Welcome to this episode of the decluttered mom podcast. I got to have a conversation with a friend of mine a couple of weeks ago and I wanted to share that conversation with you here today for today's episode. The conversation is with Mel Abraham. And Mel is someone that I met about a year and a half ago in a business mastermind that I was in

last year. And so we went to three different retreats. And I first met him in California, January of

2023, right? Yes. Trying to think of the year that we're currently in. Does anyone else feel like

all the years have blurred together over the last four or five years? Anyway, so in January of

2023, I met him at this retreat. And I asked him a question about kids and money and like how to help kids understand

money better because when I have looked for resources, I've really only found resources that

look at money in one particular way. And I wanted to see if there was other ways to look at it, especially as an entrepreneur.

And this conversation absolutely 100% is not only applicable to entrepreneurs. We talk a lot about

the current, just economic climate for just every person, right? It's just how expensive groceries are and how rent is so high

and mortgages are so high and it just feels like it's never ending. And so we talk a lot about that.

And he just has always been a source for me over the last year and a half of guidance when it comes to anything personal finance.

And so I really wanted to bring him on because he has a new book.

It's out now.

This is the first week that it's out and we will have it linked in the show notes for you.

But we also decided kind of on a whim while I was having a conversation

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