#093 Jason Flom with Gloria Killian
Wrongful Conviction
Lava for Good Podcasts
4.4 • 5.8K Ratings
🗓️ 8 April 2019
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Summary
On December 9th, 1981, Stephen DeSantis and Gary Masse, disguised as telephone repair men, gained entry to the suburban home of Sacramento coin collector Ed Davies. They hogtied Ed and his wife Grace, ransacked the house, and came up with 6 suitcases full of silver before murdering the older couple. There had been a string of robberies connected to area coin shops, and Ed Davies was a customer at the coin store where law student Gloria Killian had worked. When an anonymous tip sent police in search of DeSantis and Masse, Joanne Masse named Gloria as the mastermind to her husband’s crimes, an assertion that was repeated through the anonymous tip line. However, without sufficient evidence the charges against Gloria were dropped. Upon being convicted, Gary Masse offered his testimony, naming Gloria as the mastermind of his criminal enterprise, in exchange for sentencing leniency and other perks. This deal was concealed from the defense and the jury. In absence of corroborating evidence, Gloria Killian was sentenced to 32 years to life solely upon Masse’s incentivized testimony. She spent 17 years in prison until evidence surfaced, exposing the prosecution’s machinations and Masse’s false testimony. Gloria Killian was released in August of 2002 and currently advocates for women in prison. You can support Gloria Killian’s efforts by visiting the Action Committee for Women in Prison at acwip.net. In this episode, Gloria tells her story alongside Innocence Project Senior Staff Attorney Nina Morrison.
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| 0:00.0 | This call is from a correction facility and is subject to monitoring and recording. |
| 0:05.5 | If I didn't hear a phone, I could tell you exactly 11,945 pages. |
| 0:12.0 | Okay? |
| 0:13.0 | The 11,945 pages I've been in here. |
| 0:16.0 | And it hasn't been easy. |
| 0:18.0 | A hundred years. |
| 0:20.0 | I swear, I'm a kid. |
| 0:22.0 | I didn't do anything. |
| 0:24.0 | You know, you know, that was a real pain for me. |
| 0:28.0 | You know, because my life was discarded as if, you know, like I was a piece of trash or something. |
| 0:34.0 | You know, a hundred years, and I had dreams. |
| 0:37.0 | I wanted to do things. |
| 0:38.0 | I wouldn't commit in crimes. |
| 0:39.0 | You know, that was a very good young man. |
| 0:42.0 | That is what happens in so many cases. |
| 0:44.0 | The cops have a hunch because they're so smart at the scene, they have a hunch. |
| 0:50.0 | And once they act on that hunch, they sort of develop tunnel vision. |
| 0:54.0 | And they take off marching in the wrong direction. |
| 0:57.0 | And that happens in so many of these wrongful convictions. |
| 1:00.0 | We opened the cell door and I walked downstairs. |
| 1:04.0 | And I actually walked downstairs to be outside. |
| 1:08.0 | It felt very strange to be like I said, to be walking without no shackles on my feet. |
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