Hello and welcome to another episode of the Mark Groves podcast.

I had a couple episodes ready and dialed up to pop in your ear, and they were just not,

you know, as the world events occurred,

I didn't want to release them out of sensitivity to what was occurring.

And I wanted to dive into the conversations that are happening in the world.

And, you know, this specific episode is not about race specifically.

It's not about racism.

It's about humanity.

It's about, you know, as I explore this subject, I want to walk you through some of my thought processes

because I think it's important for other people to hear the internal dialogue of someone who, you know, like this idea

that I'm afraid you might judge me.

Of course, I am because I'm human.

And I ask for your grace that I might get the wrong words in the wrong order.

And that's ultimately what gets in the way of speaking out for white people in general

is that we're afraid of not being seen as nice

or not being liked by our family if we stand up for this or being berated or made fun of

or being seen as virtue signaling when when this comes from a heart-centered space it is expansive

it is healing to acknowledge what is occurring in the world, to acknowledge the

pain and suffering of different groups of people, and especially currently in the spotlight

of the world, the suffering of black people. And it's interesting because I was thinking,

like, we're going to continue to have this conversation

about Black Lives Matter and I thought oh my gosh like this the fact that we have to continue

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