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The American Birding Podcast

09-33: Why Birders Go Where They Go with Natalia Ocamp-Peñuela & Scott Winton

The American Birding Podcast

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Nature, Science, Hobbies, Leisure

4.7677 Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Bird tourism is booming, and in many parts of the world we've seen countries invest in conservation and tourism infrastructure to take advantage of it. Certainly birders are drawn by unique species, but  perhaps our choices for bird-watching destinations have as much to do with other factors as they do with the presence of really great birds. It's the subject of a paper to be published in an upcoming issue of the journal People and Nature by Natalia Ocampo-Peñuela and Scott Winton, who join us to talk "bird capital" and birder wants. 

Also, a much loved birding hotspot in Fort Worth, Texas is closed indefinitely

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0:00.0

Hello, welcome to the American Birding Podcast from the American Birding Association.

0:10.5

I am Nate Swick.

0:13.2

I think birders know more than most the value of the surprising site, the unexpected site.

0:19.7

It's not a park or a preserve or even a place for which its

0:23.1

first purpose is protecting nature, but for whatever reason it ends up attracting birds

0:27.0

and becomes through years and years of visits and hundreds of thousands of birds, one of the

0:31.5

most important spots in a local birding community. We all have places that we're thinking about

0:36.2

when I give you that description.

0:38.5

And I think that we know the sadness that comes along when that site is no longer available

0:43.2

to us for any number of reasons.

0:45.6

That is frustratingly the case for birders in Fort Worth, Texas, with the recent closing

0:51.0

of the Village Creek drying beds.

0:53.8

The beds were originally created as an overflow site for the city's water treatment system,

0:58.1

but as is frequently the case for these sorts of things,

1:01.1

became one of North Texas's best sites for waterfow, shorebirds, wintering, sparrows, raptors,

1:07.5

and more.

1:09.2

It hosted Lipkins during the hot Limbken summer phenomenon, and it was the spot where

1:13.3

the first Texas record of sharp-tailed Sampiper was discovered in 1991.

1:17.6

It's the quintessential local burning spot that birders valued perhaps more than just about

1:23.1

anybody.

1:24.5

Earlier this year, though, a crude oil transmission line leaked into the Fort Worth sewer,

1:30.4

and that line was diverted to the drying beds for emergency containment, which meant that a lot

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