#088 Jason Flom with Vincent Atchity and Kelly Grimes

Wrongful Conviction

Lava for Good Podcasts

True Crime

4.4 • 5.8K Ratings

🗓️ 25 February 2019

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

In this compelling interview, Vincent Atchity and Kelly Grimes join Jason Flom for a candid discussion about the criminal justice system and how it fails to support Americans with mental health challenges. Vincent Atchity has served as Executive Director of The Equitas Project since 2015. Vincent is an advocate for public health and health equity, a population health management strategist, and a builder of communications bridges connecting communities and community partners with better health outcomes and more efficiently managed costs. Kelly Grimes is a graduate of the Manhattan Mental Health Court, where CASES provides case management services, including treatment, planning and reporting on clients’ progress to the court. Kelly is now a certified peer specialist with CASES, as the peer specialist for the Manhattan Mental Health Court team. She has moved from being a client of the court to serving clients of the court. The Equitas Project, an initiative of the David and Laura Merage Foundation, envisions an America rededicated to liberty and justice for all, where there is a commonly held expectation that jails and prisons should not continue to serve as the nation’s warehouses for people with unmet mental health needs. Equitas is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization which promotes mental health awareness, and champions laws, policies, and practices that prioritize improved population health outcomes, sensible use of resources, and the decriminalization of mental illness.

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0:00.0	This call is from a correction facility and is subject to monitoring and recording.
0:05.5	If I didn't hear a phone, I could tell you exactly 11,000,
0:10.0	90,000, 45 days, okay?
0:12.5	The 11,000, my 145 days I've been in here.
0:15.5	And it hasn't been easy.
0:18.5	A hundred years, I swear I'm a kid, I didn't do anything.
0:23.5	You know, you know, that was a real pain for me.
0:28.5	You know, because my life was discarded,
0:31.0	if you know, like I was a piece of trash or something.
0:34.0	You know, a hundred years, and I had dreams.
0:37.0	I wanted to do things.
0:38.0	I wouldn't commit in crimes.
0:39.5	You know, that was a very good young man.
0:42.5	That is what happens in so many cases.
0:44.5	The cops have a hunch because they're so smart at the scene, they have a hunch.
0:50.5	And once they act on that hunch, they sort of develop tunnel vision.
0:54.5	And they take off marching in the wrong direction.
0:57.0	And that happens in so many of these wrongful convictions.
1:00.0	They open the cell door and I walk downstairs.
1:04.5	And I actually walk downstairs to be outside.
1:08.0	It felt very strange to be like I said, to be walking without no shackles on my feet.
1:13.5	I thought it was a dream, but then again, it wasn't a dream.
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