Welcome to Verity Podcast. I'm your host, Felicia Mason-Himer, and I am here to

teach you how to know what you believe, to live it boldly, and to communicate it

graciously to the world around you. I believe that women are ready to go deeper in

their faith than ever before, and they don't have to go to seminary to do it. I am

so glad you're here, and I hope you'll join me on this journey because every

woman is a theologian. Hi friends, and welcome back to Verity Podcast. I am looking out at a

beautiful snowy landscape as I record this for you. We are finally getting our snow for the month

of November. It's a little bit late this year. We usually have snow on the ground at Halloween,

and it gave us a couple of weeks, probably, so we could get Verity conference off the ground.

I'm sure that was the reason. We're so grateful that Verity conference went so well,

and that we did not have snow on the ground, and we were moving everything in for that, and now we

get to enjoy this beautiful landscape now that we're resting up. As I was thinking about what to do

for this week's episode, the Lord kept laying on my heart the topic of legalism, and many of you

who have followed Verity Podcast for years have followed every woman of theologian know that

legalism is something that I care a lot about. I would even say that the subgroup that I work with

the most within Christianity are people who are coming out of legalism and coming into a fully

free and confident faith. I am very passionate about helping people break free from the chain

of legalism, whether that's conservative legalism or progressive legalism, because as I'll talk

about a little bit in this podcast episode, those are both types of bondage that people experience

today. If you listened to last week's episode, which was the recording of the Q&A panel from Verity

Conference, I said in that panel that I feel called to people who are trapped in legalism because

legalism is the farm team for deconstruction. And what I mean by that is people who live in legalistic

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