#086 Jason Flom with John Grisham
Wrongful Conviction
Lava for Good Podcasts
4.4 • 5.8K Ratings
🗓️ 11 February 2019
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
In this special edition of Wrongful Conviction, Jason Flom is joined by author John Grisham to discuss his work with the Innocence Project, his commitment to criminal justice reform, and his Netflix series, The Innocent Man, the documentary adaptation of his only nonfiction book about two murders in Ada, OK. For ten years, John Grisham practiced law in a small town in Mississippi. He also served two terms in the State House of Representatives. In 1990, he gave up both the law and politics to write full-time, and since then has published at least one book a year. He has written one collection of short stories, one work of nonfiction, three books about sports, one comic novel, seven editions of his Theodore Boone series for children, a childhood memoir, and, at last count, more than twenty legal thrillers. Nine of his books have been adapted to film. He serves on the Board of Directors of the Innocence Project in New York, and the Focused Ultrasound Foundation in Charlottesville, Virginia.
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| 0:00.0 | This call is from a correction facility and is subject to monitoring and recording. |
| 0:05.5 | If I didn't hear a phone, I could tell you exactly 11,945 pages. |
| 0:12.0 | Okay, 11,945 pages, I've been in here. |
| 0:16.0 | And it hasn't been easy. |
| 0:18.0 | 100 years. |
| 0:20.0 | I swear, I'm a kid. I didn't do anything. |
| 0:23.0 | You know, and that was a real painful, man. |
| 0:28.0 | You know, because my life was discarded, if you know, like I was a piece of trash or something. |
| 0:34.0 | You know, 100 years, and I had dreams. |
| 0:37.0 | I wanted to do things. I wouldn't commit in crimes. |
| 0:40.0 | You know, that was a very good young man. |
| 0:42.0 | That is what happens in so many cases. The cops have a hunch because they're so smart. |
| 0:47.0 | At the scene, they have a hunch. |
| 0:50.0 | And once they act on that hunch, they sort of develop tunnel vision. |
| 0:54.0 | And they take off marching in the wrong direction. |
| 0:57.0 | And that happens in so many of these wrongful convictions. |
| 1:00.0 | They open the cell door and I walk downstairs. |
| 1:04.0 | And I actually walk downstairs to be outside. |
| 1:08.0 | It felt very strange to be like I said, to be walking without no shackles on my feet. |
| 1:13.0 | I thought it was a dream, but then again, it wasn't a dream. |
| 1:17.0 | This is wrongful conviction. |
| 1:24.0 | I'm Israel Gutierrez. |
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