Welcome to episode 85 of the first 40 miles.

If you're new to backpacking or if you're hopelessly in love with someone who wants you to love

backpacking, then this podcast is for you.

We'll talk about the essentials,

how to lighten your load,

and how to make the most of your time on the trail.

I'm your host, Heather Legler.

And I'm Josh Legler and this is the first 40 miles.

Today on the first 40 miles if you've ever been involved in a wild international caper involving Caribbean terrorists,

a stolen helicopter, and a roll of duct tape, you might be MacGyver.

But if you've ever eaten a freeze-dried meal with a titanium tent steak, you might be a backpacker.

Then on today's top five list, we'll help you with a simple numbers decision. On today's summit gear review

will be reviewing a tent that is literally light. On today's backpack hack of the

week we're going to talk about something that is simply

vulgar. All this, and that's about it. Today, on the first 40 miles. We have a 16 year old daughter who was recently in a production of

Macbeth and so we thought it would be kind of fun to have her friends over for

you know like a dinner and play a little game.

So I created this little game called MacGyver or Macbeth.

So I took quotes from Macbeth and some quotes from the television show MacGyver which is like an

action adventure show and they were supposed to guess if it was from the play from

this show. Well it's pretty obvious you know you have a whole Shakespeare and then you

have modern language so it was pretty easy for them to guess but it came out in conversation

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