This is self-work and I'm Dr. Margaret Rutherford.

At self-work we'll discuss psychological and emotional issues

common in today's world and what to do about them.

I'm Dr. Margaret and self-work as a podcast dedicated to you taking just a few minutes today for your own self-work.

Hello and welcome or welcome back to self-work.

I'm Dr. Margaret Rutherford.

I'm a clinical psychologist.

Out of Fayetteville, Arkansas, I've been a therapist for over 25 years.

And self-work is all about discussing current psychological and emotional

issues in ways that help you understand and connect and maybe even think about

getting some therapy yourself.

Today is such a special day.

I have two guests that I want to interview.

It's taken us a few weeks to get together,

so these women are busy. We're going to be talking

today about the organization This is My Brave in episode 25 actually I

participated in This is My Brave here locally, and I gave you some

information on this wonderful nonprofit back then.

But today we're going to really focus on the changes that this is my brave is making in our culture

and the exciting research that Jennifer and Kristen are doing to validate what happens when people actually talk about their mental illness

and how it can change someone's belief system

when they actually hear live what happens. So let me introduce them just a moment. Jennifer Marshall, she's the co-founder

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