Welcome to episode 82 of FBI Retired Case Fall Review with Jerry Williams.

I'm a retired agent writing crime fiction inspired by true crime FBI cases. Today we get to speak

to retired agent Tim Berkey who served 20 years with the FBI. While assigned to the Cincinnati Division at the Dayton

resident agency, Tim Berkey worked violent crime in domestic terrorism matters

and was assigned a case targeting the Aryan Nations, which at the time was

considered to be the most dangerous white supremacist group in the United States. In this episode Tim Berkey reviews how his informant

Dave Hall infiltrated the violent neo-Nazi organization. The intelligence gathered by Hall led to the disruption and

dismantling of the area nation's leadership. Later in his career Tim Berkey began

working counterintelligence investigations and was transferred to the Albuquerque

division where he was assigned to the Sandia National Laboratories and supervised the Albuquerque

joint Terrorism task force.

After retiring from the FBI, Tim Berkey co-wrote with Dave Hall

a narrative account of their Aryan Nations case, their book Into the Devil's Den,

how an FBI informant got inside the Aryan Nations, and a special agent got him out alive.

As a true crime thriller and a testament to bravery,

dedication, and friendship. It's also a timely reminder that Americans

homegrown terrorists can be just as didly as those from overseas.

After the tragic events of Charlottesville, I thought it would be quite appropriate for us to take a look at how the FBI

investigates these hate groups. I was really surprised

about some of the things that Tim talks about. So I'm sure you're going to enjoy that interview.

But before we get to it, just a few things.

First of all, I want to remind you that Man Hunt Unabomber,

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