I saw a lot of, a lot of deceitfulness going on, you know, and, and it was born out of the need to conform to the IFB standards.

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or Twitter with the handle at Preacher Boys Doc. Now, here is your host, Eric Squarsinski.

All right, guys, thanks for listening to another episode of the Preacher Boys podcast. I'm so excited to

have Drew Garcia. You guys probably know him as Andrew. He was kind of the Steven Spielberg of the Preacher Boys podcast. I'm so excited to have Drew Garcia. You guys probably know him as

Andrew. He was kind of the Steven Spielberg of the Independent Baptist Movement for a while.

Shot videos all over the IP. And that's a weird shared connection we have. We'll get into. But

Drew, thanks for joining me on the show. Thanks for having me. I'm really happy to be here.

And I've been admiring what you've been

doing from a distance for a while now. So I'm glad that this worked out. That's awesome. There's a lot of

people consuming the show from a distance. They hate from a distance or they reach out like a few

months later. I'm like, I'm actually like what you're doing. Like keep it up. So, but, um, yeah, man, it's, it's, it's really good to talk to you.

And, you know, my, my first introduction to you was, I mean, high school.

Like, I just remember, you know, we'd sit through really bad missionary presentations and

promos.

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