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60 Minutes

08/24/2025: Evidence, The Future of Warfare, Lourdes

60 Minutes

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News, Tv & Film, Society & Culture

42.4K Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Evidence has emerged that could change our understanding of the 9/11 terrorist attacks more than two decades ago. A 60 Minutes investigation has found that crucial information, initially turned over to the FBI shortly after the attacks, was never shared with the bureau’s own field agents or senior intelligence officials. Correspondent Cecilia Vega reports on this evidence, which has come to light amid a lawsuit against the Saudi government filed by families of the nearly 3,000 victims and includes a video of a Saudi national filming the U.S. Capitol, thought to be al-Qaeda’s fourth target. Correspondent Sharyn Alfonsi travels to Costa Mesa, Calif., to meet with Palmer Luckey, the 32-year-old tech billionaire who founded Anduril, a defense products company that makes autonomous weapons, some already in use by the U.S. military and in the war in Ukraine. Alfonsi explores the artificial intelligence that powers Anduril’s systems and reports on some of the company’s most advanced weapons, including a submarine that operates without sailors. While several international groups refer to lethal autonomous weapons as “killer robots,” Luckey says that these innovations represent the future of warfare. Correspondent Bill Whitaker reports from the Sanctuary of Our Lady of Lourdes, a Marian shrine in Southern France and the site of 72 medical miracles recognized by the Catholic Church. 60 Minutes goes inside the Lourdes Office of Medical Observations, where world-renowned doctors and researchers conduct decade-long investigations into the dozens of claims of miraculous cures made every year. They determine which cases can be medically explained and which cannot. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

There's a lot going on right now.

0:02.9

Mounting economic inequality, threats to democracy, environmental disaster, the sour stench of chaos in the air.

0:11.2

I'm Brooke Gladstone, host of WNYC's On the Media.

0:15.0

Want to understand the reasons and the meanings of the narratives that led us here, and maybe how to head them off at the

0:22.4

pass, that's on the media's specialty. Take a listen wherever you get your podcasts.

0:31.8

This video of a Saudi national filming the U.S. Capitol, its security posts and nearby landmarks,

0:44.3

was taken in the summer of 1999 and turned over to the FBI after 9-11.

0:50.3

But it was never shared with the Bureau's own field agents or top intelligence officials.

0:55.5

A lot of people will see this video for the first time and think,

1:00.6

how is it remotely possible that it's just coming to light now?

1:05.6

Could it really have been sitting in a evidence locker room all of these years?

1:12.4

Palmer Lucky may not look like your typical defense industry executive,

1:16.8

but the 32-year-old billionaire is the founder of Andrel,

1:20.7

whose line of autonomous weapons is powered by artificial intelligence.

1:25.9

It's a scary idea to some people.

1:27.6

It's a scary idea, but, I mean, that's the world we live in.

1:29.8

I'd say it's a lot scarier, for example, to imagine a weapon system

1:33.5

that doesn't have any level of intelligence at all.

1:39.8

Do you believe in miracles?

1:42.9

Well, 60 minutes traveled to the sanctuary of Our Lady of Lords in southern France,

1:48.0

where 72 medical miracles have been recognized by the Catholic Church over the last 163 years.

1:56.0

And tonight, you'll hear a miracle story, and from the renowned doctors and researchers who investigated it. I'm Leslie Stahl. I'm Bill Whitaker. I'm Anderson Cooper. I'm Sharon Alphonsey. I'm John Wortham. I'm Cecilia Vega. I'm Scott Pelly. Those stories tonight on 60 Minutes.

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