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We've said this before one of the things that's really amazing about the NFL is how many players drafted late in the draft

Go on to be great players and Swan Bethay Super Bowl champ just retired

Last time he played for was the New York Giants he ended up going to three pro bowls

He was a six-round pick nobody offered him a scholarly. He goes to Howard and he just

Grines it into a great career. He had eight years

With a hundred plus tackles. That is that is massive production and

He wrote a book called bet on yourself inside the mind of the ultimate underdog and he's also got a podcast

The man-to-man pod with various butler who we just had on and again

He just six-round pick at a Howard seven playoff appearances in 14 years Antoine Bethay

But Bethay for years and years. I called him Antoine Bethay

And it's not and he's French and I just found that out. He's joining us live Antoine

What's what's going on?

You're such an underdog. I called you by the wrong name for years. That's your life story

Yeah, you're not the first order lad

So let me let me just start with this because

You announced your retirement after last year and you played I think 16 games back in 2019 with the giants

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