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2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

08/02/2021 - Hour 3 - Better Veneers

2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

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Football, News, Sports News, Sports

4.63.8K Ratings

🗓️ 2 August 2021

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Jonas and Geoff continue their conversation about the importance of the offensive line and discuss where Baker Mayfield stands with a new deal. Matt Nagy had some comments about the popularity of Nick Foles and Danny G. delivers The Scraps. Plus, the fellas debate whether or not to research when gambling for fun. 

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0:00.0

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0:18.0

You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. We will take you all the way up until 9 a.m. Eastern time 6 o'clock Pacific right here on Fox Sports Radio and we will do so with a man who can wax poetically about the offensive line position like nobody else else other on radio. He is none other than the great Jeff Schwartz. I am glad to be here. I'm going to talk football. We have game week and yes. The offensive

0:48.0

line is a passion of mine. I see this all the time on Twitter at Jeff Schwartz Jeff with a G by the way I went to this thing this weekend in Vegas and they said it was on a list. Okay very cool right on a list and they said first names I said oh Jeff with a G Jeff Schwartz. She finds my name goes oh G off. I just said Jeff like three seconds ago.

1:09.0

I was there and I was there. I guess it could be and my wife just said oh no it's I said she said when we're fancy we say G off like I just like I literally said Jeff and she said G off immediately after I said Jeff and I was like no no no Jeff.

1:29.0

And so yeah offensive line but I say on Twitter at Jeff Schwartz Jeff with a G that I will argue about a lot of things one thing that I will that you will not find me arguing about his offensive line but I am correct.

1:41.0

When I talk about offensive lineman you are not allowed to tell me whether or not you agree you can you know you're allowed to tell me whether you agree or disagree but there's no arguing I do is for living this is like my passion and you're not going to tell me whether I'm right or wrong and a lot of this stuff.

1:56.0

That's why I thought it would be fun to do that because I just I don't think that position groups gets enough love I know PFF does their grading system and I've heard like where do you stand on PFF because I've heard mixed reviews on how they sort of track and monitor and rank some of these players.

2:13.0

It's definitely good for our business because they give us a data point right to discuss and yeah I think more often than not they're in the correct ballpark right I mean it's very rare that I think on any player that we say hey this player sucks and PFF has him as the best player in the position in the position right I just it's very rare to me that happens I think they're mostly in the ballpark you do I do I disagree when they have one player.

2:42.0

You'll fifth and one player 15 and I think they should be flipped sure but for the most part I think they're on the right track and I really think the PFF is helpful when it comes to Hall of Fame voting for offense alignment because you will have a data point to help make an argument for against a guy more often I think for guy because you know our position again for the Hall of Fame it's very tough right I mean you have to trust the presenter basically say hey this guy was good and and the way our pro bowl voting is now.

3:11.0

And all pro voting sometimes I don't really go with especially pro bowl voting all pros typically in the ballpark they provide us a data point and it's very helpful I think when we talk about offense line get in general.

3:23.0

Pretty helpful well there's no because there's no stat line there's no box score so people can't go to a stat and look at it so basically you're relying on reputation around the league and you're relying on whether or not a back had a thousand yard season

3:40.0

or or how many times you get like giving up a sack like those are really the only things you can go by there's a lot of guys up that just sort of fly under the rate like how long did it take I think Alan fanica is getting in this year how long did that take I mean he

3:56.0

took Alan fanica so long he became a marathon runner between his even he retired and got it and got into the Hall of Fame he became a marathon runner as a side job after he left the NFL.

4:07.0

The NFL Hall of Fame allows five guys in every year and I've been in the opinion that needs to be more like baseball where they just let a number guys in the qualify for that year right.

4:16.0

I totally agree I think it's 75% of you vote you vote for 10 players every year if you're a baby you can vote for less than 10 if you would like.

4:25.0

You vote for you up to 10 players and if you think five that year or qualify then you vote for five if you think 10 you vote for 10 and you get 75 or 80% of votes then you're in and football you know the offense line position I think some years are like word words can take one offense

4:39.0

alignment this year and that's what happens is it just pushes guys you know out over over a couple years when they're you know they're very qualified to be in in the first try and that's what we get to so I have you know NFL Hall of Fame advocates

4:53.0

to argue that their system is great and they shouldn't change it but Joe I always felt like you know again some years guys are first should be first ball Hall of Famers but aren't because there's just too many Hall of Famers in that class.

5:04.0

Yeah I just I don't like putting I don't like putting a limit on that stuff I just I don't like it I don't think that it's and and one of the things that bothers me is when they'll say something like a Hall of Fame vote comes up and somebody will say yeah well you know he's all a famer just not the first ballot not not a first year Hall of Famer.

5:22.0

Well what is it when is he going to get better in year two of eligibility like is that is that what we're doing it's like it's like you know I'll be in like year 11.

5:32.0

No I mean I kind of point where I think sometimes it's just to be a yes or no right.

5:38.0

Like a one time vote either you're in and you're not and I get I get why they do it this right the spectacle of each year having a Hall of Fame but you you know we're going to talk about the Hall of Fame game this week

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