Welcome to Van Lathons to Red Hill where we give you the brutal reality of truth.

Today's guest, Marcellus Wiley, ex-NFL player, current Fox Sports One media personality. I've known Marcellus

Wiley for years, he is someone who is very outspoken, very opinionated on the great many

things, and now he is who is very outspoken, very opinionated on the great many things.

And now he is on the show,

Speak for yourself with Jason Whitlock on the show.

They cover a bunch of different topics that range from sports to politics to pop culture.

So I wanted to get Marcellus on here and have a very spirited debate with him on the current culture of the NFL about his NFL career.

We didn't too much debate that he just talked a little bit about it.

But more specifically about his feelings towards Colin Kappernik.

I think it would be fair to say that Marcella's Wiley has been one of Colin

Kappernik's allowed his critics in all kinds of different ways both from the kneeling itself to the current

sort of schism I guess you would say between Colin Kappernik and Jay-Z.

I am one of Colin Kappernik and Jay-Z. I am one of Colin Kappernik's loudest supporters and I remained that.

So it was interesting to me to get Marcellas on the podcast to discuss what exactly his problem with Captain

this arm and Eric Reid and Kenny Stills and any of the players that are choosing to

protest in the way that they are. I wanted to do that because I wanted to have a rational

conversation with a guy who I've known for a long time, who I consider to be a rational

black man, figure out why we are on different sides of this very fundamental issue to me.

It was a great, very spirited, a long conversation, get ready for a little bit of a longer

podcast than on what you might be used to.

And it produced something that's very important. It produced no enemies. No enemies were made,

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