Hey y'all just a quick heads up the episode you're about to listen to is 8 to 10 years old

now these episodes were intended to be evergreen and I still believe there's a lot of good

information in these early episodes, but I do want to let you know that some of my ideas have evolved

over time. Times have changed since we made these episodes and ultimately I'd like to think I've grown

a lot as an artist and a human and that these don't necessarily represent my best work or the best of the podcast.

If you're new around here, I suggest starting with the most recent episode or

at least go back to around 300 and move forward from there.

Enjoy the episode. You're going to the creative Pep Talk

podcast this show is about commercial art, finding the balance between thriving financially and being creatively fulfilled.

Making good money but also enjoying making the art at the same time. Can it be done? I think so. It's a process. It's a live document, if you will.

I'm your host Andy J Miller. Illustration Age is our proud syndicate. You can find this show at illustration age

dot com slash creative pep talk on sound cloud and iTunes.

So today on the show you are in for a treat. This is a candid conversation

with my new friend Sarah Walsh of Sarah Walsh makes things.com.

Her work is fantastic.

It's rooted in the mid-century gouache kind of work,

but it feels really fresh and new at the same time.

You know, she worked at Hallmark for some time.

She's worked with Crayola.

She does coloring books and all kinds of interesting things.

She's got a new book called a hundred things you can draw with the triangle.

It's out from the publisher, Corey.

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