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I'm Paul, and this is the everyday driver car debate.

So we're back again for the car debate. However, the problem is we are yet again not going to debate cars.

We promise you we will return to debating cars.

We are so excited about this Germany pilgrimage film that we cannot stop talking

about it and since it just released between the last podcast and this podcast it has released many of you

have watched it already reviewed it so thank you for those that have watched it we

are going to talk about it again but we're gonna do it differently it's not

just Paul and I going hey we went to Germany this time it's all four of us yeah

Paul is here that's not that hard but Tom is here he's our shooter

Helmanzik Tom Helmanzik from Germany is here Perez, who is our shooter that lives in LA is here.

All four of us, you can imagine we sat down, I literally sat down with my clock and went, okay, what time do we need

to be on the thing so that we can all be awake and what so here we are all four of us are going to talk about Germany

you may have seen our film from last week which was surprise you're driving the ring

starring these two guys who are not just our shooters they were with us

to beat up on Germany for five days so Tom and Edgar thank you for being here yeah

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